Nagravision 3 Work Around Released Today!!

[Bruce9368]

NA sayers past? Oh well, each to thier own.

[r8r4lif]

....if this is the same technology that Dave is using, why would anyone expect it hacked?

Right now the "sharing" setup is the only thing working. The "slinger" is the same thing, but for an actual Charlie box...

I have been completely amazed that Dave has remained uncompromised publicly. Hell, privately too for all I can determine. AMAZING!!!

I have heard from a local dealer, who I have known long before he started his current business, that VS has told them personally N3 is compromised.

If this is true, why no tv for Bev??? Doesn't compute for me. All the sales for those FTA boxes just left on the table. No way!!! Time will tell, and if they can comp n3, then I will really be confounded by the lack of a hack for Dave!!

[Badchicken]

The reason DAVE isn't hacked is because of the ASIC, as private code language developed by NDS.

Nagra uses open-source code...which is why it'll never be as secure as Dave's system.

[VXBetaSyder]

The problem with N3 is they are treding on GNU patents. Dave and Bev even the company that create the encryption for dave and bev will see huge Law suits on the unauthorized use of 128 bit encryption pantented world wide by GNU public License (UNIX and Linux Operating Systems). This will be the down fall of the N3 encryption as they do not have authorization to use the 128 bit ecryption "GNU"patent.

[monstarr]

if you are worried about staying anonymous due to the constant internet connection required then why dont you just go get a hacked cable modem? that seems like a good safe way to do it.

[VXBetaSyder]

You will always need a IP address to access the Internet. It is not possible to be on the net without an IP address. Right now IPv4(32 bit Decimal) DNS servers operate on the internet but soon IPv6(128 bit Hexedecimal) will be integrated soon which will make it harder to track a person over the net , because all traceroute programs use IPv4 address detection, except linux/unix Traceroutes, but the Linux/Unix traceroute program is backward compatible with IPv4. IPv6 can be used now to secure Unix and Linux Local Area Networks.

[n00b]

Originally Posted by VXBetaSyder

You will always need a IP address to access the Internet. It is not possible to be on the net without an IP address. Right now IPv4(32 bit Decimal) DNS servers operate on the internet but soon IPv6(128 bit Hexedecimal) will be integrated soon which will make it harder to track a person over the net , because all traceroute programs use IPv4 address detection, except linux/unix Traceroutes, but the Linux/Unix traceroute program is backward compatible with IPv4. IPv6 can be used now to secure Unix and Linux Local Area Networks.

Your first post had me convinced you know what you are talkking about but this is utter nonsense. You don't need traceroute to find the owner of any IP address. And by the way, I think you mean GNU copyrights, not patents, because software cannot be patented. Anyway lots of commercial software use GNU licensed material, especially encryption products.

[VXBetaSyder]

Originally Posted by n00b

Your first post had me convinced you know what you are talkking about but this is utter nonsense. You don't need traceroute to find the owner of any IP address. And by the way, I think you mean GNU copyrights, not patents, because software cannot be patented. Anyway lots of commercial software use GNU licensed material, especially encryption products.

Yes you are corect it is a copyright, but with GNU being a public License and if you read the "Terms of Use" of GNU meterial all GNU copyrights must be open for use ,including code, to the public, that is why All GNU products are Free and the source code known by those who work with open scource codeing, and the Makers of Nagra are using it for non public use which is a violation of the "Term of Use" of the GNU General Public License Policies.

I was replying to Monstarrs post on the hacked cable modem and that you always need an IP address to access the net. and I know there are other ways to find people but a traceroute is the eaisiest I have found, I traced a fellow out of Warsaw Germany ,just by his email address, who tried to hack my bank account info through Email and I Emailed him back told him I knew exactly who he was where he was and that the trace went through U.S Govt computers on the way through the United States Side of the internet "backbone or BUS" so they knew exactly where to find him ,I told him never to Email me again and I havent heard a pep out of him.

[khb]

maybe you can contact him again, and explain that warsaw is in poland, not germany, although neighbors, there are quite a few differences in government , neither of which hold much respect for the US government, unfortunately, since the US paid for most of the rebuilding of both these countries after the second world war

[VXBetaSyder]

Sorry typing to fast. Yes Warsaw is in Paland but they run off the same "BUS" as Germany and France which is why it showed up through the Germany "Backbone" of the internet.

[Slave2Dave]

This thread needs to be closed.

Not only is it old but its now OT

Plus its a drain on bandwidth as people are now looking for a "fix" and they look here for a "workaround"