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Old 10-05-2008
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Nagravision 3 Work Around Released Today!!

This is worth a front page mention, and it is good news for the entire satellite community for the years to come. Nfusion has released a work around for the Nagravision 3 encryption system in use by Bev for NFL Sunday Ticket. As of right now, Nfusion users can view NFL Sunday Ticket while plugged into the internet with their Nfusion. Expect Neosat and other IKS receivers to have similar work arounds available in the near future.

I am told this was accomplished by Nfusion using a subscribed Bev Smart card in one of their servers, which than lends the encryption code to any Nfusion connected to that server. Let me stress, this is not a hack, this is a very simple work around, which I believe will have bev on it's toes scrambling to patch without any decent recourse for the next few days. In essence, they will have to find out which exact Nagra 3 smart card is being used in order to patch this hole in their system. They will need the exact number of that card. Whether that is obtainable through connection to the Nfusion server, by Bev, is unknown at this time. If it is, do not expect this to last very long. If they are unable to find out the smart card number, they will have to determine, which of the thousands deployed right now it is, and specifically shut down that card through the stream.

This is good news. As most of us know, Nagravision 2 was not fully hacked until the final days of the scaling back of Nagravision 1. First we saw carded hacks for the weak Rom101, than emulation hacks for DVB cards and hours after, hacks for all makes of FTA Receivers. I will stress again, this is not a hack, but a step in the right direction, which can better help the coders understand the workings of Nagravision 3. We will not need a real hack anytime soon, so to see this so early is promising. It will be interesting to watch how long it takes Bev to close this loophole, if they can at all, permanently. It will be much harder for Dish Network to close a loophole like this when they have to pick the card out of the 14 million Nagra 3 cards they will have in deployment by the time they have finished their swapout. Even if they can find the card, they will never be able to permanently patch it if that was their only recourse, as Nfusion will just switch cards, starting the process over again. Dish Network will need to lobby hard to have receivers with Ethernet ports made illegal to import. Even at that, they will not be able to stop dealers from selling Ethernet ports separately from FTA Receivers, as there is nothing illegal about an Ethernet port with a USB adapter. The game only gets more interesting as time goes on!

Here's to Nfusion for taking the first step, and a ballsy one at that.
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Thumbs up Heehawwww!!!!!!!!

I dont own an Infusion, but thats really good news!!!!
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nfusion will sell lots of receivers when nagra 3 kicks in as nfusion will be the only way to watch tv till a hack is found....
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Well I don't own a COnfusion but...

My understanding is that their box has NO working bin at this time and is therefor totally worthless UNLESS you login to their Korean game playing site to obtain their illegal data from their subscribed receivers so this is like ho-hum news at best. And don't forget you must stay logged in 24/7 or you can't watch tv so you are completely dependent upon their game playing site.

Most people don't have a COnfusuion but several million folks have other brands and this isn't of any interest to any of them cause they are not going to toss all their hardware in the trash and race out and buy this.

Dodge has announced that in 2009 they will have an all-electric Jeep that requires no gas or other expensive fuel to operate. If I have to have a super long extention cord plugged in at the Dodge dealer to make it work I won't be buying one.

I also won't be buying an IP RECEIVER that requires me to stay logged in 24/7 to watch tv - like millions of others I can watch tv just fine using my existing receivers and remain a Nouna Moose.

Any fix that may show up won't come from COnfusion.
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Dodge will have an electric Jeep? Wow!
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come n3 i might be picking up one of these suckers myself for nhl center ice, cant go without my hockey... go wings go... oh ya
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My understanding is that their box has NO working bin at this time and is therefor totally worthless UNLESS you login to their Korean game playing site to obtain their illegal data from their subscribed receivers so this is like ho-hum news at best. And don't forget you must stay logged in 24/7 or you can't watch tv so you are completely dependent upon their game playing site.

Most people don't have a COnfusuion but several million folks have other brands and this isn't of any interest to any of them cause they are not going to toss all their hardware in the trash and race out and buy this.

Dodge has announced that in 2009 they will have an all-electric Jeep that requires no gas or other expensive fuel to operate. If I have to have a super long extention cord plugged in at the Dodge dealer to make it work I won't be buying one.

I also won't be buying an IP RECEIVER that requires me to stay logged in 24/7 to watch tv - like millions of others I can watch tv just fine using my existing receivers and remain a Nouna Moose.

Any fix that may show up won't come from COnfusion.

well explained.....and true....

but u know that some people will do whatever it takes to watch tv.....thats what i realized....but its just my opinion.....

i dont have an nfusion and dont want one just like u said, other brands r working and they will probably work with n3 as well....
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lol

nfusion is the shit, ive had one for about 6 months, it just sits on top of my tv and thats it, and yes im on the internet 24/7, its called dsl !90 % of people already have it.
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nfusion is the shit, ive had one for about 6 months, it just sits on top of my tv and thats it, and yes im on the internet 24/7, its called dsl !90 % of people already have it.

yes, lots of peeps have it.....

what will happen if the server goes down? or gets busted?
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yes, lots of peeps have it.....

what will happen if the server goes down? or gets busted?

The TV will go black just like it does when the other boxes get hit but you will have a much higher probability of the "Maytag Repair Man" showing up on your doorstep or sending you greetings.
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It may not be a "hack" but it sounds like they were able to get into the card to some extent or feed it data and get results back. Kinda reminds me of the old Dave emu days with the Auxed H card...
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actually is called card sharing plain and simple. dreambox has this from long time ago. you can have one yourself if you have a sub.
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It may not be a "hack" but it sounds like they were able to get into the card to some extent or feed it data and get results back. Kinda reminds me of the old Dave emu days with the Auxed H card...
share the b@x#&y of the receiver share the sub
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congrats to thim, but i think i`ll sub to charlie an wait on viewsat great coders if need B, i like being safe, and can`t they track u bing hook to net 24/7?
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Everything is a work around !! Always has been for as long as I remember Back in the Snatty days Live stream !!

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